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	<title>Comments on: Since They&#8217;re Being Compared, Which Association Is Worse From A Presidential Standpoint &#8211; Ayers Or Keating?</title>
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		<title>By: Raybay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raybay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both are bad people.  Ayers wanted to bomb and kill innocent Americans, therefore he is much worse.
McCain has apologized and said befriending Keating is the worst mistake of his life.
Obama has yet to admit that Ayers is a horrible unrepentent domestic terrorist and that he should not have ever gotten so deeply involved with someone like that.  Ignorance is bliss to Obama.
EDIT: Obama also associates with corrupt bankers, check is economic advisors list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both are bad people.  Ayers wanted to bomb and kill innocent Americans, therefore he is much worse.<br />
McCain has apologized and said befriending Keating is the worst mistake of his life.<br />
Obama has yet to admit that Ayers is a horrible unrepentent domestic terrorist and that he should not have ever gotten so deeply involved with someone like that.  Ignorance is bliss to Obama.<br />
EDIT: Obama also associates with corrupt bankers, check is economic advisors list.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unbelievable to me that the answer to this question is glaring to some  people.  You have an unrepetant bomber, featured in a Chicago rag years later stomping on the flag.
You have a connection between mcCain and Keating, with McCain having outlined his mistakes in dealing with Keating.
You have Obama associating closely with Ayers and, just as he did with Rev. Wright, defending his associations and coming up with excuses as to why they don&#039;t matter.  For a U.S. presidential candidate to downplay and defend connections to a domestic terrorist, is beyond reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unbelievable to me that the answer to this question is glaring to some  people.  You have an unrepetant bomber, featured in a Chicago rag years later stomping on the flag.<br />
You have a connection between mcCain and Keating, with McCain having outlined his mistakes in dealing with Keating.<br />
You have Obama associating closely with Ayers and, just as he did with Rev. Wright, defending his associations and coming up with excuses as to why they don&#8217;t matter.  For a U.S. presidential candidate to downplay and defend connections to a domestic terrorist, is beyond reason.</p>
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		<title>By: the rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>the rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well considring that McCain was recommended to be completely exhonorated for any involvement by THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY and Ayers has never shown any remorse or regret for the killing innocent AMERICAN citizens,well I quess it goes without say which is less aggregious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well considring that McCain was recommended to be completely exhonorated for any involvement by THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY and Ayers has never shown any remorse or regret for the killing innocent AMERICAN citizens,well I quess it goes without say which is less aggregious.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayers
It is only to liberals who hate America that he has &quot;rehabilitated&quot; his reputation.   Those of us with thinking brains believe that his continued (to this day) unrepentance and regrets that he didn&#039;t &#039;do more&#039; do not a rehabilitated terrorist make.
He and Dohrn declared open war on their own nation; tried like hell to kill lots of people; managed to kill 2 policemen; still think they didn&#039;t do enough; conspired with enemy government during Vietnam; sported rings given to them by enemy made from the metal from downed US aircraft...   need i go on?  And this and more is all self-admitted by Ayers.
Obama&#039;s association with these types of disgusting America-hating characters is a pattern.
Vote for Obama if you WANT America to be communist nation led by an admitted America-hater (by obama&#039;s own words).  But don&#039;t try and pretend Obama is blameless.
McCain was completely absolved in the Keating mess.  In fact, the prosecutor was forced to include him so it didn&#039;t look like a typical Democratic line-up and to this day states his digust over that matter.
1) Neither candidate wins points for perfection, but only ONE has demonstrated his loyalty to his nation instead of loyalty to admitted terrorists.
2) Who DOESN&#039;T our enemies want us to vote for? That&#039;s who I&#039;ll vote for.
EDIT:  and ps.....Obama has never condemned Ayers and his wife Dohrn.  Quite the contrary...... he&#039;s still funneling money to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayers<br />
It is only to liberals who hate America that he has &#8220;rehabilitated&#8221; his reputation.   Those of us with thinking brains believe that his continued (to this day) unrepentance and regrets that he didn&#8217;t &#8216;do more&#8217; do not a rehabilitated terrorist make.<br />
He and Dohrn declared open war on their own nation; tried like hell to kill lots of people; managed to kill 2 policemen; still think they didn&#8217;t do enough; conspired with enemy government during Vietnam; sported rings given to them by enemy made from the metal from downed US aircraft&#8230;   need i go on?  And this and more is all self-admitted by Ayers.<br />
Obama&#8217;s association with these types of disgusting America-hating characters is a pattern.<br />
Vote for Obama if you WANT America to be communist nation led by an admitted America-hater (by obama&#8217;s own words).  But don&#8217;t try and pretend Obama is blameless.<br />
McCain was completely absolved in the Keating mess.  In fact, the prosecutor was forced to include him so it didn&#8217;t look like a typical Democratic line-up and to this day states his digust over that matter.<br />
1) Neither candidate wins points for perfection, but only ONE has demonstrated his loyalty to his nation instead of loyalty to admitted terrorists.<br />
2) Who DOESN&#8217;T our enemies want us to vote for? That&#8217;s who I&#8217;ll vote for.<br />
EDIT:  and ps&#8230;..Obama has never condemned Ayers and his wife Dohrn.  Quite the contrary&#8230;&#8230; he&#8217;s still funneling money to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Morbius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morbius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about what Ayers did in the 70&#039;s.  It&#039;s about his so called relationship with Obama, a relationship that has been exaggerated by the right for months.  Knowing someone is not the same as &quot;paling around&quot; with them.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about what Ayers did in the 70&#8217;s.  It&#8217;s about his so called relationship with Obama, a relationship that has been exaggerated by the right for months.  Knowing someone is not the same as &#8220;paling around&#8221; with them.</p>
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		<title>By: The Regulator</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Regulator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain was not guilty and absolved of any wrong doing, Obama has many more terrorists type connections
McCain will win in November
PS: Prior to that, Ayers and his cohorts succeeded in bombing the Pentagon. Ayers and Dohrn remain unrepentant for their terrorist past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain was not guilty and absolved of any wrong doing, Obama has many more terrorists type connections<br />
McCain will win in November<br />
PS: Prior to that, Ayers and his cohorts succeeded in bombing the Pentagon. Ayers and Dohrn remain unrepentant for their terrorist past.</p>
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		<title>By: happyjar</title>
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		<dc:creator>happyjar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say the association between Keating and McCain is worse.  They had known and documented interactions that undermined the economy of the United States.  
The association between Ayers and Obama is largely speculative.  Yes, they both worked on committees together.  Yes, Ayers hosted a &quot;coffee&quot; to launch Obama&#039;s campaign.  But, there is no documentation or proof that anything they did together in any way undermined or put at risk the United States.  The work they did together was community based and was meant to improve the lives of the constituents in Chicago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say the association between Keating and McCain is worse.  They had known and documented interactions that undermined the economy of the United States.<br />
The association between Ayers and Obama is largely speculative.  Yes, they both worked on committees together.  Yes, Ayers hosted a &#8220;coffee&#8221; to launch Obama&#8217;s campaign.  But, there is no documentation or proof that anything they did together in any way undermined or put at risk the United States.  The work they did together was community based and was meant to improve the lives of the constituents in Chicago.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayers is worse.  keating was bad, but found the democrats guilty, not McCain.  It is public knowledge.  Obama is still trying to cover up his relationship with ayers.  Just more lies and tap dancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayers is worse.  keating was bad, but found the democrats guilty, not McCain.  It is public knowledge.  Obama is still trying to cover up his relationship with ayers.  Just more lies and tap dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: wendy c</title>
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		<dc:creator>wendy c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s see... 
Obama had occasional instances to be around Ayers, which isn&#039;t what I call &quot;palling around&quot;. 
McCain and family flew to the Bahamas some 9 times to Keatings home, for vacations. Involved financially by McCain investments with Keating. 
Looks simple to me.  One is allegations.  The other is proven by Senate investigation. 
And yes.. you DO have to ask which is a &quot;worse&quot; person. Ayers himself has shown regret for his actions in the 60s.  Keating was convicted of many counts of fraud, and lost billions of investor monies. 
Ayers past never had ANYTHING to do with Obama. Not true of Keating. 
McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981,[11] and McCain was the only one of the five with close social and personal ties to Keating.[35][36] Like DeConcini, McCain considered Keating a constituent as he lived in Arizona.[28] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.[37] In addition, McCain&#039;s wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating&#039;s expense, sometimes aboard Keating&#039;s jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating&#039;s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.[7][38] In 1989 Phoenix New Times writer Tom Fitzpatrick opined that McCain was the &quot;most reprehensible&quot; of the five senators.[3  (widipedia)
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OMG, CRYING WITH LAUGHTER... &quot;MCCAIN WENT TO ONE MEETING&quot;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s see&#8230;<br />
Obama had occasional instances to be around Ayers, which isn&#8217;t what I call &#8220;palling around&#8221;.<br />
McCain and family flew to the Bahamas some 9 times to Keatings home, for vacations. Involved financially by McCain investments with Keating.<br />
Looks simple to me.  One is allegations.  The other is proven by Senate investigation.<br />
And yes.. you DO have to ask which is a &#8220;worse&#8221; person. Ayers himself has shown regret for his actions in the 60s.  Keating was convicted of many counts of fraud, and lost billions of investor monies.<br />
Ayers past never had ANYTHING to do with Obama. Not true of Keating.<br />
McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981,[11] and McCain was the only one of the five with close social and personal ties to Keating.[35][36] Like DeConcini, McCain considered Keating a constituent as he lived in Arizona.[28] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.[37] In addition, McCain&#8217;s wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating&#8217;s expense, sometimes aboard Keating&#8217;s jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating&#8217;s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.[7][38] In 1989 Phoenix New Times writer Tom Fitzpatrick opined that McCain was the &#8220;most reprehensible&#8221; of the five senators.[3  (widipedia)<br />
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OMG, CRYING WITH LAUGHTER&#8230; &#8220;MCCAIN WENT TO ONE MEETING&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: elgüero</title>
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		<dc:creator>elgüero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain really broke the law, republicans have also served on boards with Bill Ayers, are they &quot;terrorist pals as well&quot;?
Obama&#039;s links with Ayers seem tenuous at best, whereas Mc Cain has admitted to being involved in a criminal enterprise to benefit a rich donor at the expense of the taxpayer.
No contest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain really broke the law, republicans have also served on boards with Bill Ayers, are they &#8220;terrorist pals as well&#8221;?<br />
Obama&#8217;s links with Ayers seem tenuous at best, whereas Mc Cain has admitted to being involved in a criminal enterprise to benefit a rich donor at the expense of the taxpayer.<br />
No contest</p>
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